Minutes: OpenSG  Edge Conformance Task Group Conference Call 4

Date/Time: 13-Jan-2010  10:00-11:00 PST

Participants
Phil Beecher		Beecher Communications Consultants Ltd
Clinton Powell	SCE 
Rolf Bienert		ZigBee Alliance
Zahra Makoui		PG&E 
Sandy Bacik		Enernex
Steve van Ausdall	SCE/Xtensible

 Agenda
1.	Roll Call
2.	Action Items
3.	Inclusion of OpenADE, OpenADR into Guiding Principles and CPRM
4.	Agenda for F2F Meeting.
5.	Any Other Business.

Roll Call
John Lin sends apologies

Action Items review
ID	Date	Description	Status	
AI.6	9-Dec-2009	Zahra to contact Ed or Albert so Phil can reach out to obtain OpenADR use cases	done, Phil to get Use Cases	
AI.7	6-Jan-2010	Phil contact HomePlug to get equivalent Certification Scheme diagram	Defer until February	
AI.8	6-Jan-2010	Phil to convert documents and store documents in legacy formats (not docx)	Done	
AI.9	6-Jan-2010	John to prepare a session on Abstract Test Cases		

Inclusion of OpenADE, OpenADR into Guiding Principles and CPRM
Phil reviews Guiding Principles Document - looking for input.  Sandy suggests adding NEMA, NAESB and NERC to 1.3 Organizational Interfaces.  (Sandy co-chairs NERC security sub-group).  NERC is concentrating on bulk power.  Steve describes possible test / cert activity within NAESB.  Zahra will contact Greg Robinson and Brent for more information.  P2030 should probably also be included.  No need to formalize organizational interfaces as there is significant overlap between participants.

It was suggested that Edge Conformance TG survey similar documents from other organizations and ensure coordination.  However, it is unnecessary for Edge TG to be proactive in reaching out to orgs like Wifi Alliance at the moment.

Discussion about contents of documents )also in SG-Conformity Working Group tele-meeting)  Currently both Guiding Principles document and CPRM are biased towards HAN.  Need to solicit input from Participants of OpenHAN, OpenADE and OpenADR.  Guiding Principles document is biased towards Zigbee.  Either generalize or include other examples.  Receive input from other groups before updating.

Agenda for F2F meeting.
Items for inclusion:
Review Guiding Principles document and CPRM.  
Session on Abstract Test Cases.  
Joint session will present overview of documents, assess Use Cases, look at timelines and plan how Edge Conformance will work with OpenADE, OpenADR and OpenHAN. 

New Action Items
ID	Date	Description	Status	
AI.10	13-Jan-2010	Zahra ro contact Greg Robinson /Brent w.r.t. NAESB activity		
AI.11	13-Jan-2010	Phil contact P2030  to get equivalent Certification Scheme diagram		
AI.8	13-Jan-2010	Phil to convert documents and store documents in legacy formats (not docx)	Done	
AI.9	6-Jan-2010	John to prepare a session on Abstract Test Cases		

Date of Next Meeting
20 January 2010 – Phil probably cannot chair, will request John Lin to chair.

Minutes: OpenSG  Edge Conformance Task Group Conference Call 3

Date/Time: 6-Jan-2010  10:00-11:00 

Participants
Phil Beecher		PG&E
Clinton Powell	SCE 
Greg Steinmetz	AEP 
John Lin		Wireless Glue 
Rolf Bienert		ZigBee 
Bobby Brown		Enernex 
Zahra Makoui		PG&E 
Sandy Bacik		Enernex 

 Agenda
    1. Roll Call
    2. Guiding Principles Document
    3. Face to Face meeting - agenda items
    4. Any Other Business

2. Guiding Principles 

Phil has updated Guiding Principles document 

1.1 refers to interoperability requirements between different networks (WiFi, HomePlug, ZigBee, etc.) within the HAN – document updated to clarify.
 
2.2 Best Practice Structure:  includes additionally NIOT and RPT; no conflict exists in SE 2.0 structure. 

Picture for ZigBee IP and SE 2.0; PLC of HomePlug and others are not displayed in OpenOffice – Phil will fix. 

Network Interop:  Liaise with Open SG Communication Group to pull in requirements 

3. F2F Meeting 
-> Edge Conformance group has 4 hours + OpenADE, OpenADR, OpenHAN joint session.

Rolf  can only attend on Monday and Tuesday.

Work Item:  Abstract Test Case session
Work Item:  Zahra--- OpenHAN, but also OpenADE, OpenADR. 
OpenADR - Edge Conformance is relevant for OpenADR client. 
Work Item: CPRM.   Zahra:  expand CPRM to include OpenADR and OpenADE too.  Consider CPRM as one document and have subsection for ADR, ADE, and HAN.  Modify Guiding Principle (next week’s call) to enable inclusion of ADR, ADE work item into CPRM. 
Perhaps session at F2F for discussion of SE 2.0 cert structure. 

Action Items (renumbered for consistency and to facilitate tracking)
ID	Date	Description	Status	
AI.1 	2-Dec-2009	Phil Beecher to update TG Scope and Charter and send to Bruce to post	done	
AI.2	2-Dec-2009	John Lin:  send out existing ZB/HP CPRM to Phil for eventual distribution; Zahra / Rolf checking on copyrights	done	
AI.3	2-Dec-2009	John Lin can copy/paste from ZB/HP CWG document to a new OpenSG CPRM-like draft sample document	done	
AI.4	9-Dec-2009
	 Phil to post draft CPRM via Bruce	done	
AI.5	9-Dec-2009	Phil to get started with Bruce on Guiding Principals document	done, first draft posted	
AI.6	9-Dec-2009	Zahra to contact Ed or Albert so Phil can reach out to obtain OpenADR use cases	done, Phil to get Use Cases	
AI.7	6-Jan-2010	Phil contact HomePlug to get equivalent Certification Scheme diagram		
AI.8	6-Jan-2010	Phil to convert documents and store documents in legacy formats (not docx)		
AI.9	6-Jan-2010	John to prepare a session on Abstract Test Cases		

Call Next Week:  Inclusion of OpenADE, OpenADR into Guiding Principles and CPRM

Minutes: OpenSG  Edge Conformance Task Group Conference Call 2

12/9/09  10:00-11:00 

Phil Beecher:		PG&E 
Bruce Muschlitz:	Enernex 
John Lin:		Wireless Glue 
Rolf Bienert:		Global Inventures/ZigBee 
Clint Powell:		SCE 
Zahra Makoui:		PG&E 

1. Roll call
2. Scope/Charter 
3. Work plan 

Action Item Review: 

Update Charter done 
CPRM update done 
Zahra: Copyright check done 

2.  Scope and Charter 
reviewed:  Responsibility should be in TG charter and not WG charter. 
WG charter:  high level overview 

CPRM copy into OpenSG sample document 
Zahra:  Let's get it approved so it can be sent to WG. 
Phil:  Modify it so it can be pushed up asap. 

3.  Work Plan 
3.1 Guiding Principles document 
Phil to get started with Bruce, start free form and tidy up later.
Bruce:  Beware of scope creep 
John:  Interested parties? 
Interested:  Utilities-but who; ZigBee Alliance; HomePlug Alliance 

3.2 Certification Program Reference Manual 
Will be posted to SharePoint
Phil:  SFO meeting discussion item 

SE 2.0 need to be MAC/PHY agnostic. Need to go into detail for SE 2.0 for	ZigBee/HP as first, but not exclusive 

3.3 Test Details 
Bruce:  Not develop detailed test plans, but derive documents to write tests 

Zahra:  Let's work out the first documents, and then determine where it should land in terms of other groups: i.e. defer it; leave it open 

Bruce:  List of responsibility and interfaces (get groups and interfaces) 
John:  Evolutionary process 
Zahra:  Let's not rule out things yet... 
Phil:  Certification process and detailed tests different point 

Phil:  Collating and evaluating use cases:  Started; who for OpenADR?
Zahra:  Contact:  Ed or Albert 

Bruce:  Abstract use case would be a good work product 
Phil+Bruce:  Get high level agreement to reduce iteration of test specification 

Bruce:  Put into charter abstract test cases 

4: Action Item 
4.1 Phil to post draft CPRM via Bruce 
4.2 Phil to get started with Bruce on Guiding Principals document 
4.3 Zahra to contact Ed or Albert so Phil can reach out to obtain OpenADR use cases.

Minutes: OpenSG  Edge Conformance Task Group Conference Call 1

12/2/09 11:00-12:00 PST 

Participants
Phil Beecher		PG&E 
Bob Old         		Siemens 
Bruce Muschlitz  	Ennernex 
John Lin         		Wireless Glue 
Rolf Bienert         	Global Inventures/ZigBee 
Steve Van Ausdall  	Xtensible (UCA) 
Zahra Makoui    	PG&E 
Clint Powell        	SCE 
Art Anderson    	PG&E 

Agenda 
1. Assign Scribe 
2. Roll call 
3. Vice chair 
4. Review Charter 
5. Work plan 
6. Any Other Business 

1. Assign Scribe:  John Lin volunteers 
2. Roll Call:  per Participant list above; Bob Old of Siemens will no longer be joining. 
3. Vice Chair: John Lin, Wireless Glue Networks, Inc. volunteers. There were no objections. 
4. Review of Charter 

Phil Beecher presents Task Group Charter, changed reference into Edge Conformance, removed references to security group, most chapters are identical; very few changes. 

Zahra: WG charter needs to be approved by committee 
Bruce:  How about reducing TG charter by referencing WG charter, and describing only the differences? 
Phil: Sounds like a good idea – this is a good idea – it will reduce the size of document and avoid anomalies between scope and charters. Revision to be posted tomorrow, for next week's meeting; Bruce will then post it. 

NB: UCA SG Conformity Edge Conformance website is the place to post. 

5.  Discussion Work Plan 
Phil: Requirement from existing Use cases. 
-Phil:  Collate use cases for other TG, identify, filter. 
--Scope:  ADR, ADE, HAN; each should have use cases. 
--Collect use cases. 
--Suggestion:  try to take original use cases, and reduce to essential elements requirement for conformity. 
--reduce down 90%? 
--What is definition of edge conformity?  Must cover HAN, ADR, ADE aspects. 
--Determine intra-dependencies of these groups 
--Determine inter-dependencies between the groups 
--Define comprehensive test requirements for full conformity 
--Remove redundancy, and identify gaps. 
--Gaps in each, and between groups 

-What is process we will go through?  Summary of Suggestions discussed: 

i. start framework 
ii. describe testing requirements:  guiding requirements: users standpoint, device  standpoint 
iii. be careful of Scope Creep for the SG Conformity Edge Conformance TG work items 
iv.  Scope Creep:  What shall be our scope...? 
    - comes out of charter- edge conformity:  chapter 2:  not too open / closed 
    - work plan needed- defines scope 
    -  things that need to get done- 
    - Work item suggestion: develop a Guideline document for adoption by all interested parties. 
    - Adoption of Guideline will mitigate conflict in future 
        --Let's start (20pg) high level and agree on it. 
        --Write requirements for thousand page documents... 
        --OpenHAN:  9 guiding principles:  took several months of discussions 
        --Make shorter document then could drive larger documents. 
        --Make sure that document can be agreed to so we can point to it. 
v.  How do we include ADE, ADR? 

6: Any Other Business 
-Set Meeting frequency:  1/week      10:00-11:00 Wednesdays, 6PM GMT, 10AM PST 
-Currently 9 participants 
-Zahra will send invite SG Conformity; Phil sends invite Edge Conformance 
-NB: OSG a (Conformity); OSG b (Edge) 
-NB: Clint:  SE leadership call conflict w/ SG Conformity (will alternate) 

Action Items: 

AI-1) Phil Beecher to update TG Scope and Charter and send to Bruce to post
AI-2) John Lin:  send out existing ZB/HP CPRM to Phil for eventual distribution; Zahra / Rolf checking on copyrights 
AI-3) John Lin can copy/paste from ZB/HP CWG document to a new OpenSG CPRM-like draft sample document