Minutes: OpenSG  Edge Conformance Task Group Conference Call 6

Date/Time: 27-Jan-2010  10:00-11:00 PST  Participants
Phil Beecher		Beecher Communications, Inc.
John Lin		Wireless Glue Networks, Inc.
Mark Freund		PG&E
Clint Powell		SCE
Chuck McParland	LBNL
David Mollerstuen	Tendril Gerald Gray		Simple Integrations Sandy Bacik		Enernex
Bruce Muschlitz	Enernex
Rolf Bienert		ZigBee Alliance 
 Agenda
1.	Roll Call
2.	Action Items

	3.	New Action Items
ID	Date	Description	Status	
AI.12	20-Jan-2010	Reach out to Open ADE and Open ADR for conformance (Phil and John), ask for involvement; Ask for respective chairs to have a rep to call in.  Invite to Listserv of OpenADE and OpenADR	1/2 Done	
AI. 13	20-Jan-2010	Discuss with Phil/John on restructuring of GP document esp. sections >2.2.
	Pending	
AI.14	20-Jan-2010	Phil to prep intro for 2/1 SG Conformity session	Pending	
AI.15	20-Jan-2010	Everyone:  READ the GP and CPRM by F2F 	TBD	
AI.I6	20-Jan-2010	Phil/John Call in info to be distributed ASAP for the F2F meeting	Pending	

Date of Next Meeting

4.	Inclusion of OpenADE, OpenADR into Guiding Principles and creating separate CPRM docs for ADE, ADR, and HAN

	Introduction of Chuck McParland of LBNL
	
5.	Agenda for F2F Meeting:  
	2/3: 	08:00-10:00 :  Opening Stuff, Guiding Principles, CPRM
       		10:30-12:00 :  CPRM (continued)
      		13:00-15:00 :  Abstract Test Cases
             2/4 	13:00 -15:00   Joint meeting: OpenADE, OpenADR, OpenHAN 

         a) Overview of Edge Conformance GP
         b) Overview of CPRM
         c) Status-Use Cases:OpenHAN, OpenADR, OpenADE
         d) Timelines

Boot Camp: all participants can attend any session.
Abstract Test Case:  Fully automated; no human intervention
Devices may have test control interface
Audit points may be required based on devices
Bruce:  Goal be unambiguous tests
Chuck:  Want to track closely and test end to end of OpenADR to edge.
                Mon (bootcamp) / Thr (afternoon)
Need Technical Use Cases in Thursday session (and feedback as necessary)

6.  Any Other Business.
	Next Call- 2/8, chaired by JLIN. 

Roll Call
Done.

Action Items review
ID	Date	Description	Status	
AI.12	20-Jan-2010	Reach out to Open ADE and Open ADR for conformance (Phil and John), ask for involvement; Ask for respective chairs to have a rep to call in.  Invite to Listserv of OpenADE and OpenADR	1/2 Done	
AI. 13	20-Jan-2010	Discuss with Phil/John on restructuring of GP document esp. sections >2.2.
	Pending	
AI.14	20-Jan-2010	Phil to prep intro for 2/1 SG Conformity session	Pending	
AI.15	20-Jan-2010	Everyone:  READ the GP and CPRM by F2F 	TBD	
AI.I6	20-Jan-2010	Phil/John Call in info to be distributed ASAP for the F2F meeting	Pending	

Minutes: OpenSG  Edge Conformance Task Group Conference Call 5

Date/Time: 20-Jan-2010  10:00-11:00 PST  Participants
John Lin		Wireless Glue Networks, Inc.
Art Anderson		PG&E Gary Aumaugher	EPRI Rolf Bienert		ZigBee Alliance Zahra Makoui		PG&E  Sandy Bacik		Enernex
Bruce Muschlitz	Enernex 
 Agenda
1.	Roll Call
2.	Action Items
3.	Inclusion of OpenADE, OpenADR into Guiding Principles and creating separate CPRM docs for ADE, ADR, and HAN
4.	Agenda for F2F Meeting:  
	2/3: 08:00-10:00 :  Opening Stuff, Guiding Principles, CPRM
	       10:30-12:00 :  CPRM (continued)
                   13:00-15:00 :  Abstract Test Cases
             2/4 13:00 -15:00   Joint meeting: OpenADE, OpenADR, OpenHAN
                                           a) Overview of Edge Conformance GP
                                           b) Overview of CPRM
                                           c) Status-Use Cases:OpenHAN, OpenADR, OpenADE
                                           d) Timelines
5.	Any Other Business.

Roll Call
Done.

Action Items review
ID	Date	Description	Status	
AI.9	6-Jan-2010	John to prepare a session on Abstract Test Cases	Pending	
AI.10	13-Jan-2010	Zahra to contact Greg Robinson /Brent w.r.t. NAESB activity	Closed	
AI.11	13-Jan-2010	Phil contact P2030  to get equivalent Certification Scheme diagram	Defer to status	

AI.10:  NAESB not putting together STD testing/cert.  Few labs testing on their own.  Greg Robinson to work within SG Conformity.

 Inclusion of OpenADE, OpenADR into Guiding Principles and CPRM

GP:  how/where to include - F2F clear inputs.
1- GP:  document structure to modify / include ADE/ADR portions?
    Sections 2.2 and beyond are OpenHAN centric at this point.
OpenADE (Zahra) interface issues    
OpenADR is mainly server description for DR and Price events; this is outside of Edge; concentrate on receiving side (edge).   Conformity wrt OpenADR is not Edge issue per se. Edge conformity should concentrate on edge devices.

Addressing issue of "conformity" for OpenADR and OpenADE:  somewhere receiver side conformance needs to be addressed.  Need more input from respective experts.

NIST (Zahra):  CIM will be used as basis for OpenADR/ADE/HAN.  Extensions to CIM will be proposed via IEC, TC 57 WG 14.  Enterprise Conformance shall address conformity w/ CIM.

CIM and Generic Architecture topic remains wrt OpenADR/ADE/HAN and CIM, and under what conceptual framework are we going to consider the issue of conformity---that which covers all relevant elements of the required architecture.

Agenda for F2F meeting.
2/3: 08:00-10:00 :  Opening Stuff, Guiding Principles, CPRM
       10:30-12:00 :  CPRM (continued)
       13:00-15:00 :  Abstract Test Cases
2/4 13:00 -15:00   Joint meeting: OpenADE, OpenADR, OpenHAN
                                           a) Overview of Edge Conformance GP
                                           b) Overview of CPRM
                                           c) Status-Use Cases:OpenHAN, OpenADR, OpenADE
                                           d) Timelines

Target:  Have acceptable GP (not wording, but conceptual / task list / heartburns)
             Procedurally for publishing a doc:  list of comments , clear it, and then send   		it for approval.
Rolf will be absent from 2/3
Gary will be absent

Call in information will be distributed; Internet will be available.  GotoMeeting is going to be assumption.

New Action Items
ID	Date	Description	Status	
AI.12	20-Jan-2010	Reach out to Open ADE and Open ADR for conformance (Phil and John), ask for involvement; Ask for respective chairs to have a rep to call in.  Invite to Listserv of OpenADE and OpenADR		
AI. 13	20-Jan-2010	Discuss with Phil/John on restructuring of GP document esp. sections >2.2.
		
AI.14	20-Jan-2010	Phil to prep intro for 2/1 SG Conformity session		
AI.15	20-Jan-2010	Everyone:  READ the GP and CPRM by F2F 		
AI.I6	20-Jan-2010	Phil/John Call in info to be distributed ASAP for the F2F meeting		

Date of Next Meeting
27 January 2010 

Minutes: OpenSG  Edge Conformance Task Group Conference Call 4

Date/Time: 13-Jan-2010  10:00-11:00 PST  Participants Phil Beecher		Beecher Communications Consultants Ltd (absent) Clinton Powell	SCE  Rolf Bienert		ZigBee Alliance Zahra Makoui		PG&E  Sandy Bacik		Enernex
Steve van Ausdall	SCE/Xtensible 
 Agenda
1.	Roll Call
2.	Action Items
3.	Inclusion of OpenADE, OpenADR into Guiding Principles and CPRM
4.	Agenda for F2F Meeting.
5.	Any Other Business.

Roll Call
John Lin sends apologies

Action Items review
ID	Date	Description	Status	
AI.6	9-Dec-2009	Zahra to contact Ed or Albert so Phil can reach out to obtain OpenADR use cases	done, Phil to get Use Cases	
AI.7	6-Jan-2010	Phil contact HomePlug to get equivalent Certification Scheme diagram	Defer until February	
AI.8	6-Jan-2010	Phil to convert documents and store documents in legacy formats (not docx)	Done	
AI.9	6-Jan-2010	John to prepare a session on Abstract Test Cases		
 Inclusion of OpenADE, OpenADR into Guiding Principles and CPRM
Phil reviews Guiding Principles Document - looking for input.  Sandy suggests adding NEMA, NAESB and NERC to 1.3 Organizational Interfaces.  (Sandy co-chairs NERC security sub-group).  NERC is concentrating on bulk power.  Steve describes possible test / cert activity within NAESB.  Zahra will contact Greg Robinson and Brent for more information.  P2030 should probably also be included.  No need to formalize organizational interfaces as there is significant overlap between participants.

It was suggested that Edge Conformance TG survey similar documents from other organizations and ensure coordination.  However, it is unnecessary for Edge TG to be proactive in reaching out to orgs like Wifi Alliance at the moment.

Discussion about contents of documents )also in SG-Conformity Working Group tele-meeting)  Currently both Guiding Principles document and CPRM are biased towards HAN.  Need to solicit input from Participants of OpenHAN, OpenADE and OpenADR.  Guiding Principles document is biased towards Zigbee.  Either generalize or include other examples.  Receive input from other groups before updating.

Agenda for F2F meeting.
Items for inclusion:
Review Guiding Principles document and CPRM.  
Session on Abstract Test Cases.  
Joint session will present overview of documents, assess Use Cases, look at timelines and plan how Edge Conformance will work with OpenADE, OpenADR and OpenHAN. 

New Action Items
ID	Date	Description	Status	
AI.10	13-Jan-2010	Zahra ro contact Greg Robinson /Brent w.r.t. NAESB activity		
AI.11	13-Jan-2010	Phil contact P2030  to get equivalent Certification Scheme diagram		
AI.8	13-Jan-2010	Phil to convert documents and store documents in legacy formats (not docx)	Done	
AI.9	6-Jan-2010	John to prepare a session on Abstract Test Cases		

Date of Next Meeting
20 January 2010 – Phil probably cannot chair, will request John Lin to chair.

Minutes: OpenSG  Edge Conformance Task Group Conference Call 3

Date/Time: 6-Jan-2010  10:00-11:00   Participants Phil Beecher		PG&E Clinton Powell	SCE  Greg Steinmetz	AEP  John Lin		Wireless Glue  Rolf Bienert		ZigBee  Bobby Brown		Enernex  Zahra Makoui		PG&E  Sandy Bacik		Enernex  
 Agenda     1. Roll Call     2. Guiding Principles Document     3. Face to Face meeting - agenda items     4. Any Other Business
 2. Guiding Principles  
Phil has updated Guiding Principles document  
1.1 refers to interoperability requirements between different networks (WiFi, HomePlug, ZigBee, etc.) within the HAN – document updated to clarify.
  2.2 Best Practice Structure:  includes additionally NIOT and RPT; no conflict exists in SE 2.0 structure.  
Picture for ZigBee IP and SE 2.0; PLC of HomePlug and others are not displayed in OpenOffice – Phil will fix.  
Network Interop:  Liaise with Open SG Communication Group to pull in requirements   3. F2F Meeting  -> Edge Conformance group has 4 hours + OpenADE, OpenADR, OpenHAN joint session.
 Rolf  can only attend on Monday and Tuesday.  Work Item:  Abstract Test Case session
Work Item:  Zahra--- OpenHAN, but also OpenADE, OpenADR.  OpenADR - Edge Conformance is relevant for OpenADR client.  Work Item: CPRM.   Zahra:  expand CPRM to include OpenADR and OpenADE too.  Consider CPRM as one document and have subsection for ADR, ADE, and HAN.  Modify Guiding Principle (next week’s call) to enable inclusion of ADR, ADE work item into CPRM.  Perhaps session at F2F for discussion of SE 2.0 cert structure.    Action Items (renumbered for consistency and to facilitate tracking)
ID	Date	Description	Status	
AI.1 	2-Dec-2009	Phil Beecher to update TG Scope and Charter and send to Bruce to post	done	
AI.2	2-Dec-2009	John Lin:  send out existing ZB/HP CPRM to Phil for eventual distribution; Zahra / Rolf checking on copyrights	done	
AI.3	2-Dec-2009	John Lin can copy/paste from ZB/HP CWG document to a new OpenSG CPRM-like draft sample document	done	
AI.4	9-Dec-2009
	 Phil to post draft CPRM via Bruce	done	
AI.5	9-Dec-2009	Phil to get started with Bruce on Guiding Principals document	done, first draft posted	
AI.6	9-Dec-2009	Zahra to contact Ed or Albert so Phil can reach out to obtain OpenADR use cases	done, Phil to get Use Cases	
AI.7	6-Jan-2010	Phil contact HomePlug to get equivalent Certification Scheme diagram		
AI.8	6-Jan-2010	Phil to convert documents and store documents in legacy formats (not docx)		
AI.9	6-Jan-2010	John to prepare a session on Abstract Test Cases		
  Call Next Week:  Inclusion of OpenADE, OpenADR into Guiding Principles and CPRM

Minutes: OpenSG  Edge Conformance Task Group Conference Call 2

12/9/09  10:00-11:00   Phil Beecher:		PG&E  Bruce Muschlitz:	Enernex  John Lin:		Wireless Glue  Rolf Bienert:		Global Inventures/ZigBee  Clint Powell:		SCE  Zahra Makoui:		PG&E   1. Roll call 2. Scope/Charter  3. Work plan   Action Item Review:   Update Charter done  CPRM update done  Zahra: Copyright check done   2.  Scope and Charter  reviewed:  Responsibility should be in TG charter and not WG charter.  WG charter:  high level overview   CPRM copy into OpenSG sample document  Zahra:  Let's get it approved so it can be sent to WG.  Phil:  Modify it so it can be pushed up asap.   3.  Work Plan 
3.1 Guiding Principles document 
Phil to get started with Bruce, start free form and tidy up later.
Bruce:  Beware of scope creep  John:  Interested parties?  Interested:  Utilities-but who; ZigBee Alliance; HomePlug Alliance 

3.2 Certification Program Reference Manual 
Will be posted to SharePoint Phil:  SFO meeting discussion item 

SE 2.0 need to be MAC/PHY agnostic. Need to go into detail for SE 2.0 for	ZigBee/HP as first, but not exclusive 

3.3 Test Details 
Bruce:  Not develop detailed test plans, but derive documents to write tests  
Zahra:  Let's work out the first documents, and then determine where it should land in terms of other groups: i.e. defer it; leave it open   Bruce:  List of responsibility and interfaces (get groups and interfaces)  John:  Evolutionary process  Zahra:  Let's not rule out things yet...  Phil:  Certification process and detailed tests different point   Phil:  Collating and evaluating use cases:  Started; who for OpenADR? Zahra:  Contact:  Ed or Albert   Bruce:  Abstract use case would be a good work product  Phil+Bruce:  Get high level agreement to reduce iteration of test specification   Bruce:  Put into charter abstract test cases  
4: Action Item 
4.1 Phil to post draft CPRM via Bruce 
4.2 Phil to get started with Bruce on Guiding Principals document 
4.3 Zahra to contact Ed or Albert so Phil can reach out to obtain OpenADR use cases.    

Minutes: OpenSG  Edge Conformance Task Group Conference Call 1

12/2/09 11:00-12:00 PST 
 Participants Phil Beecher		PG&E  Bob Old         		Siemens  Bruce Muschlitz  	Ennernex  John Lin         		Wireless Glue  Rolf Bienert         	Global Inventures/ZigBee  Steve Van Ausdall  	Xtensible (UCA)  Zahra Makoui    	PG&E  Clint Powell        	SCE  Art Anderson    	PG&E   Agenda  1. Assign Scribe  2. Roll call  3. Vice chair  4. Review Charter  5. Work plan  6. Any Other Business   1. Assign Scribe:  John Lin volunteers  2. Roll Call:  per Participant list above; Bob Old of Siemens will no longer be joining.  3. Vice Chair: John Lin, Wireless Glue Networks, Inc. volunteers. There were no objections.  4. Review of Charter   Phil Beecher presents Task Group Charter, changed reference into Edge Conformance, removed references to security group, most chapters are identical; very few changes.   Zahra: WG charter needs to be approved by committee  Bruce:  How about reducing TG charter by referencing WG charter, and describing only the differences?  Phil: Sounds like a good idea – this is a good idea – it will reduce the size of document and avoid anomalies between scope and charters. Revision to be posted tomorrow, for next week's meeting; Bruce will then post it.   NB: UCA SG Conformity Edge Conformance website is the place to post.   5.  Discussion Work Plan  Phil: Requirement from existing Use cases.  -Phil:  Collate use cases for other TG, identify, filter.  --Scope:  ADR, ADE, HAN; each should have use cases.  --Collect use cases.  --Suggestion:  try to take original use cases, and reduce to essential elements requirement for conformity.  --reduce down 90%?  --What is definition of edge conformity?  Must cover HAN, ADR, ADE aspects.  --Determine intra-dependencies of these groups  --Determine inter-dependencies between the groups  --Define comprehensive test requirements for full conformity  --Remove redundancy, and identify gaps.  --Gaps in each, and between groups   -What is process we will go through?  Summary of Suggestions discussed:   i. start framework  ii. describe testing requirements:  guiding requirements: users standpoint, device  standpoint  iii. be careful of Scope Creep for the SG Conformity Edge Conformance TG work items  iv.  Scope Creep:  What shall be our scope...?      - comes out of charter- edge conformity:  chapter 2:  not too open / closed      - work plan needed- defines scope      -  things that need to get done-      - Work item suggestion: develop a Guideline document for adoption by all interested parties.      - Adoption of Guideline will mitigate conflict in future          --Let's start (20pg) high level and agree on it.          --Write requirements for thousand page documents...          --OpenHAN:  9 guiding principles:  took several months of discussions          --Make shorter document then could drive larger documents.          --Make sure that document can be agreed to so we can point to it.  v.  How do we include ADE, ADR?   6: Any Other Business  -Set Meeting frequency:  1/week      10:00-11:00 Wednesdays, 6PM GMT, 10AM PST  -Currently 9 participants  -Zahra will send invite SG Conformity; Phil sends invite Edge Conformance  -NB: OSG a (Conformity); OSG b (Edge)  -NB: Clint:  SE leadership call conflict w/ SG Conformity (will alternate)   Action Items: 

AI-1) Phil Beecher to update TG Scope and Charter and send to Bruce to post AI-2) John Lin:  send out existing ZB/HP CPRM to Phil for eventual distribution; Zahra / Rolf checking on copyrights  AI-3) John Lin can copy/paste from ZB/HP CWG document to a new OpenSG CPRM-like draft sample document