OpenSG Edge Conformance Task Group Face 2 Face Meeting in San Francisco, February 2010

Minutes: February 3 2010

Attendees
Phil Beecher, Pat Kinney, James Mater, Greg Ennis, Clint Powell, John Lin (scribe)
Chuck Thomas (EPRI),  Gary Aumyher, John Tester, Steve Kang, Steve Gable, Rish Ghatikar, Mike Finch, Wayne Dennison, Greg Steinmetz, Ralph Mackiewicz, Zahra Makoui, Mary Ann Piette, Chuck McParland

AM1

Phil presents agenda.  There were no additions – agenda agreed by unanimous consent.

Review of Guiding Principles document
Phil presents Guiding Principles document - EdgeConformityGuidingPrinciples-r03.doc. The meeting reviews paragraph by paragraph, editing the document “live”.

General comments (captured in revised guiding principles document)

Need to improve wording in “Scope” section.

There is general discussion about definitions. We need definitions for Conformance, Validation, Certification, Interoperability, 

Definitions terms-
Certification -- is an official act of approving a product by a legally constituted entity.  
(ISO9000)
It may be a legal requirement. (Wikipedia)

Accreditation - validation of certification process and /or a certification laboratory (ISO 9000)

Discussion on the definition and alignment of what we mean...

Not function to preclude any specific standard---be inclusive
We will not define detailed test plans, test specifications and test cases

Organizational Interface:
->  Intent--
NIST-  SGIP TCC

Discussion ensued about logos and expectations from a logo associated with certification / interop testing.

If OpenSG logo--- UCA would own it.

Formal liaisons will be established as required.  This will depend on level of accreditation and whether there is a logo.

Test Control Interface is BENEFICIAL; recommend implementation
Measure of how good a certification system is; Best Practice!
Devices which require user interaction will benefit from TCI.

Radio hooks; also OTA / socket based TCI. 

Discussion about Wi-Fi TCI - Greg Ennis will provide information.

Alliance specific TCI shall be able to integrate into larger system; but we don't have context for larger testing system.

Documents are open on SharePoint

Individual layer certification doesn't get OpenSG to SE.

ISA SP100 refers to ZigBee test labs for 802.15.4 certification.  

ModBus also has good system for layered testing – should investigate further.

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AM2

Guiding Principles document (continued)

Deployment Requirements diagram:  needs describing, particularly P4 

Testing Policy is currently SEP and ZigBee centric.  This needs addressing.  It is now geared particularly towards product certification.  This may not be appropriate for ADE/ADR.

Discussion about ADE (and security): What to do with security that falls under Security and Conformity, and what is the interaction for specific security considerations; how does Cert Program incorporate security?  This has implications for interface certification.

Concerning ADE, we're not going to specify how to certify the Internet. Layers 1-4 are beyond of scope of Edge Conformity Task Group.  It appears that Layer 5 through application has a lot in common with HAN.

Phil has incorporated comments into Guiding Principles document and will clean up and publish. 

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PM1

John Lin presents CPRM document.

Structure-CPRM --- change picture to horizontally connect the testing side (program) and Policy side.

Modules:  Can a SE 2.0 be tested, but lower PHY be additive?

2.2.2.2:  Sticky point

Generalize CPRM to be technology agnostic.  Action John Lin

Interoperability Testing:  Wi-Fi Alliance uses 4 devices w/ 3 chipsets.

ADR/ADE/HAN need to have new interoperability section defined.

Software and Hardware variety needed.

Title 24 updated 1/3 years; OpenADR becoming mandated:  2012/2013 time range.

2.2.10 Certificate Authority---move to OpenSG Security

Logo variety probably

Timeline-> SE 2.0 program:  in 2 quarters

14 day review period

CPRM review is complete.  John Lin will update.

Discussion about OpenADR and how to test.  Plans to implement reference design.  Edge Conformance Task Group and OpenADR will maintain regular contact to ensure we are aligned.

No other business, meeting is adjourned